Question : https://signup.netflix.com/movie/Oliver-Twisted/60031887 - What is There Now?
Searching for 'Oliver Twisted' (2000) on Netflix use to go to a listing for the DVD where Neflix commented it was not available. Now there is a listing, not for a DVD, but for streaming movies instantly(?) over the internet to computers and TVs (which would not include the three related educational bonus features on the DVD).
The current listing:
Oliver Twisted
(2000)<:article class="mdp-content" sizset="4" sizcache="0">
Mary Happ (Karen Black) doesn't have much to complain about; she has a good job, and her kids, Livvy (Signe Kiesel) and Jeff (Brian Ahmes), are happy. But when Oliver (Jason McMahan), a mysterious relative in a strange coma, moves in with them, all the family's secrets rise to the surface, terrorizing them.
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Permalink Reply by thatboy on -
When I search for it, I get this:
Nothing at all about streaming. If you think NF is violating your copyright, get a lawyer and take it up with NF rather than continuing to spam our community with thinly-veiled promos for your movie.
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Permalink Reply by Cthulhu on
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Thank you for your reply.
Go to
https://signup.netflix.com/home?country=1&rdirfdc=true
without logging in to your account and read it. Clear your browser history first or use a different computer if your account is remembered and autoloaded.
You should notice the site is all about streaming, not DVDs anymore. Did not someone complain about that on here already?
You obviously have not been paying attention and/or being logged in to you account is bringing up the old version of the site, possibly due to how your browser stores casche files.
If you search the site without using your account, you will see what I saw, which I cut and pasted directly from the file.
You said you searched for it. Just enter
https://signup.netflix.com/movie/Oliver-Twisted/60031887 (See the title above!)
directly and see what you get, which is what I copied and pasted from.
Log into your account after that to see what the response is.
Netflix can only be violating my copyright if a pirated copy of the movie is actually there. There is no thinking about it to do and no reason to lawyer up at this time. The question is, what does a Netflix member get when trying to stream 'Oliver Twisted'? I am not a Netflix customer, so I am requesting an independant observation from a volunteer Netflix member. I expect it would not cost anything extra for one to try this experiment. Netflix should not be falsly advertising something Netflix does not have, which may be just an editing oversight.
By the way, you have no idea what real spamming is. You do not know the meaning of the word! I already posted the videos for FREE on here months ago. I expect most anyone that wanted to watch them from this small group already has.
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Permalink Reply by Microwaved on -
Um, what Thatboy posted above is exactly what Netflix members see when we log into our account. The DVD is NOT AVAILABLE and the title is NOT AVAILABLE FOR STREAMING. Dude... I think perhaps you are on something cause um, I clicked all your links, logged in and not logged in and it is not available at Netflix via streaming or DVD.
I also agree with Thatboy that you are spamming. It's a different kind of spamming but it's spamming none the less. Your movie is getting clicks on the Netflix page and you're getting traffic to generate interest in hopes that Netflix will pick up your movie. It's not hard to read the motives in between the lines. What's that old saying, it's hard to bullshit a bullshitter. Well I call bullshit. And I'm well below the bar as far as smart people go around these parts and if I can smell your bullshit then it's pretty bad.
Secondly while you may think that Netflix is headed to the streaming only direction, I've been pleasantly surprised that a lot of movies that I've had in my SAVE Queue for a number of years all seemed to have started appearing in my queue! FUCK YEAH!
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The old data for the DVD on the file clearly indicated to the DVD was not available, but the file from the new streaming site does not contain that disclaimer, and it pops up on facebook when I search for the file for the DVD that I posted there. I expected it would not be on the stream service either, but when I type
into the browser it goes to
https://signup.netflix.com/home?country=1&rdirfdc=true
then I scroll down to the bottom of the file and click on "Browse Selection" which goes to
https://signup.netflix.com/BrowseSelection
then I type
oliver twisted
into the search window and click on search which goes to
https://signup.netflix.com/Search?v1=oliver+twisted
which has the target as the first item. There is no statement stating anything about availability. The popup from scrolling the title or the blank picture does not contain an availability statement. Clicking any of the three active spots on the target file goes to
https://signup.netflix.com/movie/Oliver-Twisted/60031887
which again does not contain an availability statement, which is why I had to ask since I am not a member and can go no further. You said it was not available from streaming, but that is because as a member, you tested that, correct? Netflix should have documented that fact for the streaming file as was done for the DVD file as pictured above.
Now, how am I getting anything from anyone clicking on the Netflix page? An empty file on Netflix gets clicked on by a few members of a small group. That does nothing for the movie or for me. Netflix posted the listing for the DVD all on their own. Netflix has been directly and indirectly communicated to that the DVD is available, but the Netflix business model, like redbox, and BLOCKBUSTER EXPRESS is to only deal with huge volumes of titles from big time distributors. All Anonymous legions clicking on the Netflix file would not get any attention from Netflix. A true leader pays attention to detail. We all know what Reed Hastings has been doing. Maybe he is trying to tank the company on purpose like the character in the tarmac scene in the Stephen King movie, 'The Langoliers'. For me to get anything would require large numbers of people all watching the DVD where I have it posted, all at the same time, each on their own computer. Small numbers do not count and large numbers spread over time do not count. You are right about not being smart, but you are smelling your own. I never said that I thought Netflix was headed in the streaming only direction, which it may be, given what I read, I only indicated the DVD related files are not showing on the web site now.
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Permalink Reply by thatboy on
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By the way, you have no idea what real spamming is. You do not know the meaning of the word!
I know you were suspended from this site for spam in December.
I know you previously advocated spamming in one of your posts on this site:
For anyone who wants the Oliver Twisted movie and/or the whole DVD to be available where it may look better than on YouTube, such as another video hosting service, an "on demand" streaming service, a download to disc service, disk by mail, disk by kiosk, and/or television network, even for a nominal fee, try virally spamming your target(s) into submission, even to include help from everyone on your lists, their lists, and so on, and requesting such aid from the anons at anonplus.
I also know that when you have to tell people it isn't spam, it's spam.
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Back in December, there was a quite a bit of silliness with emoticons that resulted from an article I posted, related to Netflix which was copied directly from the source. It seemed like everyone was having a good time with it and this did appear to be a noncensoring free thinker site. Maybe the last comment with a certain animated emoticon was taken way too seriously. The only responses to anything posted on here tended to be silly pictures. One person commented that a copied article from 'Orlando Weekly' related to Netflix and amazon was "hard to masturbate to". So, yea, I threw that what you call advocating spamming comment out there to see what would happen, and . . . nothing did . . . but you actually copied it . . . and kept it? And you brought that YouTube thing here yourself. So, tell us, who do you work for?
As for the other thing, did you actually read it? I have a real issue with amazon/LOVEFiLM selling/renting pirated counterfeit 'Oliver Twisted' DVDs for several years on their's and other international sites and recently on the amazon.com site which also sells on other American sites, along with several other companies based in the UK and some in India. Now you may want to call that spamming, but real spamming would be to post to unrelated files of unrelated companies and send messages directly to YouTube members like the "someone sent you a video" emails. All the companies selling the counterfeits have broken international copyright and other laws for years. I have collected plenty of evidence against them and they all know it by now. The comments on the LOVEFiLM files have been there for a long time, so LOVEFiLM is not concerned about it, why are you? I have only had control of FFI for a short time and was attempting to have some issues resolved before involving lawyers.
I took control of the Florida Film Investment Company (FFI) back in May, shortly after the death of the former CEO, Gersh Morningstar, who did not posess my computer skills. Eric Louzil tried to directly steal 'Oliver Twisted' from FFI as he has done to other low budget movie producers. His first attempt failed. Gersh Morningstar knew there was a studio in the UK producing conterfeit DVDs which included 'Oliver Twisted' but he was in failing health and other key people involved with FFI that had more industry knowledge had died of natural causes, and some major quiet investors that pledged to invest in a second FFI movie were in the wrong place at the wrong time when the World Trade Center was destroyed on September 11, 2001. Since you have some skills and extra time you can internetly dig up dirt on Eric Louzil, and I can post the evidence against him and the companies in easy to read files on a disposable email service I use and you can follow the links from there, but they will only stay for a short time and can be manually deleted. The files are too huge to post on this site. I want to find a permanent place to post them where size is not a problem, the URLs will work when clicked on, the graphics are included, and the invisible codes from cutting and pasting from sites and from the browsers and editors used are not a problem.
Spam is an email thing, of getting the same email multiple times, sent to all email addresses the sender collected, which started with the famous "Make Money Fast" email soon to be followed by "Make Money Slow" by the same author. The term "spam" is now used for anything one wants to snit about. On MEEZ, simply posting the same content to two different forums, even though it fits the topic of each, one for the adults, one for the teens, so both groups can read it without crossing over, gets called "spamming/flooding". Warning the public about companies selling counterfeit products they should not waste their money on is broadcasting.
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Permalink Reply by Knaldskalle on -
Notice and Procedure for Making Claims of Copyright Infringement
Amazon respects the intellectual property of others. If you believe that your work has been copied in a way that constitutes copyright infringement, please follow the notice and procedure for the Amazon site where you identified the infringement:
Click here for Amazon.com.
Click here for Amazon.co.uk.
Click here for Amazon.de.
Click here for Amazon.fr.
Click here for Amazon.es.
Click here for Amazon.it.
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The last four listed are fairly useless to anyone that does not read/write the language and only the last two of those four have an email address.
notifica@amazon.it
aviso@amazon.esand due to the fact I had set up an account on CreateSpace,
CreateSpace has been fully provided all the evidence, along with amazon/LOVEFiLM through email addresses that include
from which there was only that form crap sent replied from the amazon/LOVEFiLM email address provided by CreateSpace, followed by a condesending brush off response from the so called copyright team.
The forms process may be of some use for singular trivial cases, but the problem is way too vast to be filling out a form for each instance on their sites, which on their EU sites, is more of a free for all ebay type set up, allowing anyone to participate, selling new and used copies at various prices, using accounts that appear then go away, sort of like an ebay set up, which it seems, but may not be true, they can not get away with on the .com site(?).
The next email addresses I will send to are jeff@amazon.com and ecr@amazon.com even though ecr stands for executive customer relations, and I have never been a customer and never will be.
Amazon does not respect anything. Enter 'boycott amazon' and 'amazon sucks' into some search engines and get some education. Amazon openly does business with Eric Louzl who has ripped off many small independant production companies and sold their titles as his own on EU and IN sites along with his own gabage movies he made just to look legit, using a variety of disposable corporate monikers to do so. Enter 'Eric Louzil' and 'Eric Louzil judgement' into some search engines and get some education. There is no "believe that your work has been copied in a way that constitutes copyright infringement" to it. I have collected the proof positive evidence. Due to the fact that key people involved in FFI who had marketing knowledge died of natural causes, Eric Louzil tried to directly steal 'Oliver Twisted' from FFI (and tried to involve Pathfinder Home Entertainment (which sell all their titles on amazon) in the process), and some would be major investors (by low budget standards) were killed in the World Trade Center demolition, 'Oliver Twisted' never was placed on the common market anywhere. A small number of VHS tapes were made for the stockholders to purchase for a few dollars and later a small lot of DVDs were made, again for the stockholders to purchase, after Eric Louzil interfered with the legitimate business FFI to reproduce and market the official DVDs.
I can repost the evidence I sent on an easy to read disposable email site. The URLs below are just a quick sample of the listings for the counterfeit DVDs and VHS tapes.
http://www.findanyfilm.com/Oliver-Twisted-film_options~8836 - a sales site used by many companies.http://dvdavenue.com/shop.php?c=all&n=none&k=oliver+twisted... - used by amazonThere are three graphics used, two of which are more common, but all clearly indicate Eric Louzil is involved. This is all an interrelated organised crime syndicate involving corrupt mega conglomerate corporations and companies that contribute millions disgused as lobbying to their governments to ignore their illegal activities.
This is the Eric Louzil graphic that still appears in one of the dead end listings for 'Oliver Twisted' at
http://www.amazon.com/Oliver-Twisted-Erik-Estrada/dp/B000BR6V4G/ref...
that he used two of his companies for, RGH Lions Share (disposed of) and Echelon Enterainment 2. He tends to use similar names for his corporate shell game scams.
He also tends to use the same art elements for the covers, which can be seen on other titles that have the same look as these next two.
Various so called "Studio:" names appear with the other titles, some titles having more than one "Studio:" name when looking at multiple sites, but some form of "DARK VISION" is usually present with these two.The next graphic has "Deeksha" on the cover and listed as the "Studio:". There is a Deeksha oneness movement run by some scam artists in Indea, which may be related. The common art elements are obvious.
The only official cover for the DVD by FFI is this next one. Notice there are no common market elements in the graphic like the DVD logo.
I removed the bottom statement in my own version of the graphic since it is not true.
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