Finale: Ep 16/17: "The incident"

[Evil Herbivore]

>This is it - the finale.

Sneak peeks below - thanks to ODI:

jack/sayid/ellie/richard & the bomb:

promo:
Locke & Ben:

jack & sayid:

sawyer/ juliet/ kate on the sub:

[Evil Herbivore]

Finale tonight!

[Devin]

I can't hardly wait!

[Phineas T Freakears]

After seeing Star Trek for the 2nd time, I'm coming home to watch the Lost finale, which, if tradition holds, will be a total mind fuck. I am highly anticipating it and know it’s going to be mindblowing, but I haveta say, we're gonna missing a character or two. Now I have read NO spoilers, but this is Lost, and they won't let us stay happy for long.

[Evil Herbivore]

WTF is the first thing i have to say - then i will have to paste something i read that sums up theory i agree with - put whatever names in it you'd like: anubis & ra, good & evil, god & satan:
thanks to whomever posted this on lost forum - as it saved me from a lot of typing!

The statue is of Anubis, the Egyptian God of death. Also, a picture of Anubis was shown in the temple where the black smoke came from. Thus, the black smoke is Anubis, the God of death. We have seen the smoke monster appear in the form of Eko's brother, Yemi, Alex, and as Christian. It can appear in the form of anyone whose dead body is on the island. Now, drumroll, the smoke monster is appearing as John Locke. the real John Locke is indeed dead.

Anubis is also the guy we saw at the begining on the beach with Jacob. Jacob is also a God, and normally God's can't kill each other. The loophole is that apparently only a mortal man is able to kill a God. This is why people don't get to see God until they are dead (when they go to heaven). This is why Ben never got to see Jacob. Anubis figured this out. First, Anubis tried to use the form of Christian to convince people on the island to do things against Jacob's will and change history. But Jacob kept rebalancing things back to the way they were supposed to happen (by power of persuasion when visiting everyone off the island, for example). So Aubis came up with Plan B, to pose as John Locke, then appear as Alex to convince Ben to kill Jacob.

Why does Anubis want to kill Jacob? Because Jacob is RA, God of life. Richard Alpert is his son, perhaps (initials R.A. or RA). We literally saw Jacob bring Locke back to life after he fell out of the window. With Jacob dead, Anubis can now alter history however he pleases and kill whomever he wants. He can again rule as God of death. This is the ultimate bad ending. We're doomed!

But wait, Juliet just got the bomb to explode, which will mean everything that happened on the show, including the killing of Jacob, never happened. She saved the day. In fact, everything done by the Losties for the whole series was a component leading up to this. And it was Jacob who led to them all coming to the island. So they all played a part in "keeping balance to the force."

[Smell My Finger]

I agree to a certain point. We know that when the bomb went off it was daylight. We saw it before and whining through when Juliette was in the hole already. When Jacob was killed it was night. Even though it was in the future, if you line the two events together as if they were ont he same day then jacob was still killed after the bomb exploded.

[Evil Herbivore]

that being said i'm PISSED that Locke is really dead and, for now, died for nothing......

but, if jacob hasn't lived in cabin for a long time, who was? smoky/ aka bad guy? and if that's true then what about christian, etc telling locke in the cabin about moving the island ? was that a BAD idea? was it evil/ bad guy's way of getting to the loophole and Locke moving island was acutally really bad, bad thing?

[Evil Herbivore]

and then WHY would richard tell Locke ( real locke) that he had to die?
i'm sure there's more to come....otherwise the newbies wouldn't be hauling his body around.
or did ben do this and knew locke aka bad locke would come back? in beginning when locke is talking to ben when ben is injured it seemed to me like ben was lying being all "surprised" that "locke" was now alive again.....
and of course the conversation btw jacob and other guy is the free will vs. fate type argument - and thru the show jacob def seemed on the free will side......

[Evil Herbivore]

It only ends once....." Maybe this is what Daniel figured out when he said that WHH. Maybe Jacob was saying that man always repeats himself in his actions. By saying that everything that happens before is progress, means that when some men (the good guys) go back and try to change things only shows that there are some people who try to do good and change things for the better. As Jacob goes around and tries to "recruit" more people, he is trying to tip the balance of the conflict in his favor and the favor of those who do good.

The only questions I have now is what happens to Jacob from here? I can't believe that it's that easy to get rid of him. Maybe Jacob needs a sacraficial person (like Locke) to take over his body so he can return to overtake his nemesis. Also, why would they allow man to come to the Island and do experiments? Why let the incident take place? Although they still owe us thousands of answers, this finale has really given us something to think about. But why would Jacob choose the Losties he did? And why did he speak to some before the crash and others after?

so now i'm thinking it may be locke vs. locke -jacob will go into dead locke's body and battle mano a mano w / "bad locke" - could be freaky!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Evil Herbivore]

jacob also said "they're coming" which i think he means his selected ones, aka the losties.
and the writers do love Stephen King's "the dark tower' and said they reference it:
In the Dark Tower, Roland is searching for the tower and at the end he goes through the door at the top and ....he is back where he started....he has made progress but not changed anything significant. Hence, Fairidy's you can't chance what happened. Perhaps they can't change anything, but merely can make progress within the circle.

[Evil Herbivore]

"Our leader He who will save us all!".........translated from "Ille qui nos omnes servabit"
"Ille qui nos omnes servabit - “He who will protect us all.” Latin students will be careful not to confuse the verb servo, servare - “protect, keep” (it’s the root of English words like “conserve” and “preserve"), with the almost-homophone servio, servire - “to serve". The writers probably didn’t intend a double meaning in Richard’s answer, but given the amount of speculation this show fosters, I’ll leave it for others to decide."

Funny other thing to consider: Who, exactly is in the shadow of the statue?

I think that it is Locke, or locke's doppleganger -- He's literally lying in the shadow of the statue, and his doppleganger has been living in the shadow of Jacob.

Ben says "...And when he asks, he gets led here like Moses." History reminds us that Moses was the one that led the Jews out of slavery in Egypt

[Evil Herbivore]

Two players, two sides. One is light... and one is dark. ...Walt. Do you want to know a secret?"

Damn Locke - perfect from the beginning - but is it "fate"? or "destiny?"